What if we treated mental health like a broken arm—something real, urgent, and worth taking care of? In this episode, Shawn chats with Julie Preder from Mental Health America Lakeshore about why mental health is health. They dive into why real conversations matter more than surveys, how workplaces can be way better at supporting people (spoiler: it starts with listening), and why connection is the real secret sauce for thriving teams. Tune in for a fresh take on culture, compassion and creating spaces where people feel seen, heard and valued.