What if the key to leading across 850+ locations isn’t control, but clarity? In this episode, Shawn and AJ talk with Kurt Gengenbacher of ATI Physical Therapy to unpack how values, leadership, and alignment come to life inside a sprawling, people-first organization. From rolling out new values across 900 leaders, to redefining strategic planning through the lens of polarity management, this episode is packed with practical wisdom for anyone looking to scale culture without losing soul. If you’re wrestling with how to support leaders, create alignment, and drive development at scale, without burning people out, this conversation is for you.